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What an excellent observer and commentator on life you are, and so educational.
You used the word interpellating whiich I’d never heard of before, so I had to look it up.
“the process by which ideology addresses the pre-ideological individual and produces him or her as a subject proper”
Well I never! You live and learn. I’ll try and work it into my conversation today.
(See Homer, positivity)
Soncere thanks for mentioning Clifford Brown. I’d never heard of him either, but he’s got a lot up on YouTube. What a trumpet. I’ll be listening to more from him.
I still reckon the Prof’s your best bet. If it’s getting a bit expensive, why don’t you let the prof take the lead and treat you?
Such a feeling of empowerment may lead to to her devloping masterful feelings, and you may then end up in an unexpected position.
Possibly even with a ball gag.
Have fun, and keep up my education.
i am a woman. have been one for nearly 50 years. i could not identify the difference between “sea blue” and “duck egg blue". even at gunpoint.
i’m off to turn in my ‘woman card’.
DF: Well, thinking back to my days working in textiles, I think we’d say that sea blue is a bit darker, with a greenish tint. Duck egg blue is quite pale in comparison. That’s why it worked so well together–the sea blue lightened the other one. It might have been the nearest clean shirt and trousers she had to hand that morning, but if it was deliberate…kudos.
TSB: The best example of interpellation, which makes it much clearer, comes from Althusser, the French Marxist (and uxoricide), who asked you to consider a policeman hailing you in the street. With that action, you’re interpellated into a subject according to the rules that exist around a policeman, his powers, your allowed behaviours etc.
In the pub, I thought we were being framed (with an element of unwillingness) as interesting “authentic” nothern pub folk, and I didn’t like that–just as with the man being hailed by the copper, it reduces the degree of agency you have to be seen as autonomous, since all your actions are interpreted as those of a certain type of subject. Or maybe I wasn’t pissed enough.
Very glad you enjoyed Clifford Brown–I’ve also been poking around for some more of his recordings.
I’ll find out about the Prof next week, but even from day one, the financial disparity between us looms.
Right must dash, got to hide all the cider bottles before the potential new lodgers come round. It might take some time.
I too had to look it up. What a brilliant word ! It looks as it is, scarily officious.
I have to say I’m hooked. I like reading you in bed with tea and toast; it’s like a soap opera with brains, drugs and lots of captivating details, or perhaps I should say a modern day Dickensian serial where I’m always wanting to know what happens next.
The fascinating thing to me about both interpellation, and your own attempts to break out of it, shows how a certain kind of social interaction is practically anti-empathic:
* on the one hand, neither of Althusser’s policeman and hailee cares a fig what the internal emotional and mental states of the other is;
* on the other hand, you encountered someone whose family or close friends might think of as slightly damaged, or at least cut adrift from their traditions, like Hoggart’s grammar-school generation; yet as mere passing acquaintances your quite reasonable reaction was to subtly tell him where to go.
I stress that that’s not to say that what you did was wrong - he was after all using you as characters in his own narratives, which borders on the rude however you paint it - but it does make all those social relations at work look rather unforgiving.
Isabelle: Thank you, you (and the discount out of date Hobgoblin from the corner shop) have made my evening.
SB: “neither of Althusser’s policeman and hailee cares a fig what the internal emotional and mental states of the other is”
Don’t know - I think interpellation always carries with it an exercise of power. The pleasure in interpellating someone is partly derived from the withdrawing the subject’s control about the way his or her behaviour is interpreted. I think the hailee does care about that, since they’re aware of being called into an inferior position within a power relation which did not exist before they were interpellated. (The word’s starting to sound a bit silly by repetition now).
Re your last paragraph–I am turning into one of the Lancaster pub folk I always found so unfriendly when I move here 30 years ago!
Well, *that* happens to us all. I’m just waiting for someone to come along and build me a convenient local.
Don’t you have any paste for the wallpaper instead of sellotape? Sellotape turns brown after a while and looks awful
Yes it’s just a temporary solution–the whole house is in desperate need of redecorating. In the short term I’ll just paint over the (plain) wallpaper.
The wallpaper in the front room is absolutely awful IMHO – it’s Laura Ashley and very expensive. It makes your eyes do a Brigit Riley. The plan is to suspend some light poles and across the ceiling and hang some cambric or muslin over it.
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